Skip to main content

Grateful Dead Live at Ventura County Fairgrounds on 1985-07-13




Set 1

One More Saturday Night-> Fire On The Mountain, Walkin' Blues, Dupree's Diamond Blues, Mama Tried-> Big River, Bird Song-> The Music Never Stopped

Set 2

Touch Of Gray, Women Are Smarter, Terrapin Station-> Drums-> The Wheel-> Cryptical Envelopement-> The Other One-> Comes A Time-> Around & Around-> Sugar Magnolia, E: U.S. Blues


Collection GratefulDead
Band/Artist Grateful Dead
Date July 13, 1985
Venue Ventura County Fairgrounds
Location Ventura, CA

Source SBD -> Cassette Master (Sony D5/TDK MA-R90)
Lineage Cassette Master (Nakamichi DR-1) -> Sound Devices 744T (24bit/96k) -> Adobe Audition v3.0 -> Samplitude Professional v11.03 -> FLAC/16
Taped by Joani Walker and Paul Scotton
Transferred by Charlie Miller


Notes

Notes:
-- Disc change is seamless
-- Thanks to Joani Walker and Paul Scotton for the tapes
-- Thanks to Joe B. Jones for his help with the pitch correction

Reviews

Reviewer: Dave Siebert - - July 15, 2014
Subject: Listen.
Of course,I was there! Thannk you Charlie Miller for helping me relive my past in such quality>#dontletgo
Reviewer: jiminycriquet - - November 12, 2013
Subject: Love it
This has got some great stuff... End of first set and start of second set = truly magical. Great playing by all and Jerry's guitar has a nice deep rich sound to it that is awesome.

Thanks again Charlie Miller, you are the man!
Reviewer: doug_the_dude - - July 14, 2013
Subject: --
Awesome, full-throated show from a magnificent summer.

Set 1: OMSN > Fire. Of course, a weird way to start a show, but just check that Fire - my god, they have that rhythm as steady as a rock. I'm tempted to want to compare this to a '77 version, but how's about letting 1985 stand on its own two feet, and compare *others* to this magnificence?

Walkin' Blues peaked this year. They turned in one incredible reading of this old R. Johnson tune again and again. As Gregg Allman would say, this thing is six-foot-f*ckin' BLUES.

Everything else rounds out quite an eye-popping first set - Dupree's is handled with total ease, and Bird Song > MNS makes for a fantastic bookend to the opening jams. WOW!

Set 2 - Only caveat for this show is Touch, which Jerry fumbles - they never really got a handle on this one lyrically until after the coma (most appropriately, maybe). But Terrapin is sung from the top of the mountain, D>S is purposefully weird - check the hallowed space that the Wheel emerges from.

Other One is all right enough, and to njpg below: if you didn't like Jer's '85 attempts at Cryptical, which indeed were rather lackluster, why bitch about lack of a reprise? He never aired the reprise out for 10+ minutes ala 68-70 anyways; it would have been a 45-second thing, had he done it - besides, the sharp turn into Comes a Time is absolutely majestic - listen to how he *commands* that opening line - this is NO substandard version - if there's anything to complain about, it's Bobby's abrupt jangle into a ho-hum A&A away from the beautiful delicacy they were laying down - they could have kept up that space for another 10 minutes, even to the end of the show, and I'd be happy.

The energy here is infectious - if you have any head friends who scoff at '85, suggest this one. If it doesn't convince, nothing will.
Reviewer: BIG_R - - July 15, 2012
Subject: 7-13-85
Excellent performance/sound quality. Yeah, C Miller rules!
Reviewer: ILoveJerryGarcia - - June 27, 2011
Subject: Charlie Miller
Just seeing Charlie Miller's name on this fantastically played show is satysfying. I worship him.
Reviewer: njpg - - June 25, 2011
Subject: 4.3 stars
There are no really good AUDs of this show, so I'm rating this characteristically awesome Scotton/Walker/Miller SBD instead. I think the best AUD of this show is the Suraci, as per usual for this tour.

The set list is amazing. Despite what you might think before you hear it, though, the first is the better of the two sets, with the highlights being the opening Saturday Night/Fire, another very heavy Walkin' as good as the one they played a few nights before, and Big River. In the second set, we have yet another sloppy and shoddy Cryptical (what is the point of awesome breakouts if they sound like crap?), and this would be mitigated by a stellar Other One...but then, even though they set it up for a Cryptical reprise, THEY DON'T PLAY IT. Instead, Garcia breaks the rhythm with a slightly substandard Comes A Time. Not cool. But the encore rocks. Overall, a good show that could have been so much better.
Reviewer: Longnstrange - - March 1, 2010
Subject: GOOD STUFF
Awesome sounding board! This isn't heavy on the keys or vocals like so many eighties boards are. Cymbals sound great. No swishy swashy. Bass is all there to boot. Opinions abound as far as song selection and performance, so my reviews are only of the recording quality.
Reviewer: Sedula - - March 1, 2010
Subject: Reviews of recording quality
I've never seen a stupider statement than that the reviews are for recording quality not the show. If the show sucked and the recording was good it gets a five?

This is why it was beyond annoying to sit next to people like Longstrange at shows, who would be singing along in your ear louder than the music and bathing once a tour.
Stream Only
Stream playlist
( VBR )
In Collection
Grateful Dead
In Collection
Live Music Archive
Uploaded by
Matthew Vernon
on 2/23/2010
Views
3,535
Favorites
12
Reviews
8
PEOPLE ALSO FOUND
Grateful Dead
by Grateful Dead
862
0
0
Source: Nakamichi CM-300 (CP-1) x2 > Cassette Master (Sony TCD5M/Maxell XLII-S C-90); Recorded from Floor Section 7, Row Y, Seat 4
Grateful Dead
by Grateful Dead
451
0
0
Source: flac24: Master Audience Nakamichi CM300/CP4 Shotguns>Sony D6 Tapes:Maxell MX 90,100 Tapes From Floater,Transfer By Keo
Grateful Dead
by Grateful Dead
2,974
0
3
( 3 reviews )
Source: FOB AUD>Beyer Dynamic M88's>Sony TCD5M(CM Maxell Mx 90)
Grateful Dead
by Grateful Dead
618
0
0
Source: Recorded FOB from Section 2, Row J, Seat 10 by Bob Morris. (FOB) Nakamichi CM-300 (CP-1) x2 > Cassette Master (Sony TCD5M/Maxell XLII-S C-90) Cassette Master (Nakamichi DR-1) > Korg MR-1000 (1-bit/5.6MHz) > Audiogate (1-bit/5.6MHz > 16-bit/44.1KHz) > cdwav (edits)
Grateful Dead
by Grateful Dead
393
0
0
Source: (FOB) Nakamichi CM-300 (CP-1) x2 > Cassette Master (Sony TCD5M/Maxell XLII-S C-90) Cassette Master (Nakamichi DR-1) > Korg MR-1000 (1-bit/5.6MHz) > Audiogate (1-bit/5.6MHz > 24-bit/96KHz) > Soundforge 9.0 (edits) > flac24
Grateful Dead
by Grateful Dead
734
0
0
Source: (FOB) Nakamichi CM-300 (CP-1) x2 > Cassette Master (Sony TCD5M/Maxell XLII-S C-90) Cassette Master (Nakamichi DR-1) > Korg MR-1000 (1-bit/5.6MHz) > Audiogate (1-bit/5.6MHz > 24-bit/96KHz) > Soundforge 9.0 (edits) > flac24
Grateful Dead
by Grateful Dead
495
0
0
Source: Nakamichi CM-300 (CP-1) x2 > Cassette Master (Sony TCD5M/Maxell UDXLII C-90); Cassette Master (Nakamichi DR-1) > Korg MR-1000 (1-bit/5.6MHz) > Audiogate (1-bit/5.6MHz > 24-bit/96KHz) > Soundforge 9.0 (edits); Recorded by Bob Morris
Grateful Dead
by Grateful Dead
249
0
0
Source: Master Audience Recorded By Mr. Baker, Transfer By Keo; Nakamichi CM300/CP4 Shotguns > Sony D6, Tapes: Maxell XLII-S 90, 100; Transfer With Nakamichi MR-1 > Korg MR-1000 @ 1 Bit/5.6 MHz; Tracking/Sample Rate Conversion With AudioGate Software To 32/96 kHz Wave; Dithered/Flacked With Korg Aqua To 16/44; SBE's Checked/Fixed With Trader's Little Helper; Metadata Tagging With Tag&Rename
Grateful Dead
by Grateful Dead
239
0
0
Source: AUD: Nakamichi CM300/CP4 shotguns > Sony TC-D5M > Sony UCXS90 (1st set) & TDK MA90 (2nd set) with no Dolby. Set up last row of floor far right (stage left) side.
Grateful Dead
by Grateful Dead
687
0
0
Source: Source: (handheld/ORTF/110^/DFC/FOB) B&K 4011s > Neumann BS48i-2 > SV-255 > DAT(m)